Teena Lyle: Genderless Hands

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Teena Lyle (Photo courtesy DRUM Magazine)

SKF NOTE: Great advice from percussionist Teena Lyle, now on her third tour with Van Morrison.

#WCW: Van Morrison’s Touring Percussionist Teena Lyle
December 5, 2018

Q. Any advice for girls contemplating getting started and making it in this arena?

A. Just see yourself as a set of hands. They are genderless. Don’t go in with a “it’s not fair, the boys get all the work” chip on your shoulder. That’s a bad vibe and people pick up on it. Love working with men as well as women. Music is for everyone. Hustle hard for work and don’t be put off by a “no.” Just dust yourself off and try again. Read Mary Beard’s Women and Power: A Manifesto. That can help empower you through the tough times when you risk losing the faith.

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Taking a Chance on Fish

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Taking a chance on Fish
Scott K. Fish, Special to the Piscataquis Observer • November 30, 2018

Looking back almost 40 years I can’t imagine not crossing paths with Ron Spagnardi, founder and publisher of Modern Drummer magazine. We were both drummers, entrepreneurs. Ron in New Jersey, me in New York. At about age 34, Spagnardi saw the success of a 10-year-old magazine devoted to guitarists, Guitar Player, and wondered, why not publish a magazine devoted to drummers?

Next, Ron bought two small subscription ads. One in Down Beat magazine, and one ad in the New York Musician Union Local 802 newspaper. Spagnardi’s ad copy was pretty basic, something like: Interested in subscribing to a new quarterly magazine exclusively for drummers? Send $10 to: Modern Drummer, 47 Harrison St., Nutley, NJ. (I don’t remember the exact amount for a subscription.)

These ads were Ron testing the waters. He told me he had a separate bank account for subscriber’s money. If at least 2,000 people subscribed, Ron said, he could afford to publish the magazine. He didn’t know what he was doing was illegal. Without a Modern Drummer product, soliciting paid subscriptions was a no-no.

Spagnardi’s said his plan was, “If I don’t get at least 2,000 subscribers, I’ll send back their money.”

I was excited to subscribe to this new magazine for drummers. More than 1,999 other drummers and drum enthusiasts felt the same. Ron’s next task was figuring out how to publish a magazine — which he did.

Fish and Spagnardi crossed paths about a year later after Ron published an in-house ad seeking drummers interested in freelance writing for MD.

I submitted my letter and resume and — to my surprise and joy — was hired as a freelancer. Ron told me later he received plenty of requests from drummers with no writing experience, and writers with no drumming experience. I was the magic combination of drummer/writer.

Freelancing for MD opened for me a door to meet my drum heroes face-to-face. It was an opportunity far beyond seeing drum heroes in concert, asking them a question or two at drum clinics. I felt as if I was holding the key to a treasure chest. And in many ways I was.

My March 8, 2015 blog entry describes my first in-person meeting with Ron.

“I first met…Ron Spagnardi probably in the summer of 1978. MD‘s office was the basement of the Spagnardi home…. MD was still a quarterly publication. Nothing fancy about the basement. I remember it as an unfinished basement with desks, tables, and lighting sufficient to produce and ship a magazine. MD Features Editor Karen Larcombe was there. So were Ron’s father, Leo Spagnardi handling shipping and receiving, and Carol Padner and Jean Mazza were responsible for MD‘s circulation.”

By then, Ron had published my first two freelance MD interviews, using my Carmine Appice interview as MD’s October 1978 cover story.

“Ron seemed a bit apprehensive about what I might be thinking of MD‘s office/basement. But, I thought it was all great and exciting,” I wrote in my blog.

My first freelance MD drummer interview with Mel Lewis turned inside out everything I believed about becoming a pro drummer. It literally prompted a total reassessment of my lifelong goal. Depressing, frightening, and necessary.

In October 1980 Ron Spagnardi’s hired me as MD’s Managing Editor.

The job was fun, full of opportunities, lousy pay, living in a rooming house. I wouldn’t trade the experience for the world.

I left MD, October 1983, having written 48-percent of MD’s feature stories plus my managing editor tasks. And MD grew to 12 issues a year, from 9 issues when I was hired.

Ron, I think, would say I earned my keep. We remained friends. I am forever grateful to Ron Spagnardi, for taking two chances: One on publishing a drummer magazine, and one on hiring me to help him.

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Barry Keane — Studio Drumming in Toronto 1981

SKF NOTE: Modern Drummer’s first decade was a time for discovery. Never before in my lifetime, and I think the same is true of most MD readers, had we so much indepth access to great drummers. And pro drummers never before had an opportunity to speak at length to the drummer community. That was especially true of MD’s feature interview drummers.

Having a career as a studio drummer held strong appeal to many drummers in 1981, when I interviewed Barry Keane. When we met, Barry was touring with Gordon Lightfoot. As of this writing Barry Keane is still Lightfoot’s drummer. Lightfoot’s is an amazing band of listening musicians.

In addition to his concert work with Lightfoot, Barry earned his living as a studio drummer. Likely on August 2, 1980, backstage at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center in upstate NY, I interviewed Barry for his Modern Drummer feature interview. Here I ask him about the reality — as opposed to rumors and guesswork — of being a studio drummer.

Clarifying that his answer pertains to Toronto, this is Barry Keane’s answer.

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Imprisoned by Ding-Dinga-Ding-Dinga

SKF NOTE: Ed Soph’s video clip above brought back my long, long struggle with the ding-dinga-ding-dinga ride cymbal beat.

Soph demonstrates that beat and then says, “We all know that a ride pattern is not this, even though there are thousands of books that would make us think that it is.”

When learning to play the drumset was my life mission, playing exercises in popular jazz drum method books against a ding-dinga-ding-dinga ride cymbal beat was usually tedious, too mechanical, and not musical.

I’d hear jazz drummers on records playing ding-dinga-ding-dinga on slow to medium tempo songs. Not always, but often.

On record, during tv appearances, and in concert — drummers abandoned ding-dinga on uptempo tunes.

Great drummers like Roy Haynes, Paul Motian, and Elvin Jones, I eventually discovered, ignored a repetitive ding-dinga-ding-dinga at all tempos.

While music and rhythm evolved, Ding-dinga-ding-dinga remained static, and young drummers were told they had to use it.

What utter nonsense. Ride cymbal pattern phrasing should be musical phrasing. When ding-dinga-ding works best — use it. Just don’t be imprisoned by it.

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Neil Peart: A Musician is a Guy Who Gets Up in the Morning and Goes to Work

SKF NOTE: Here’s the back story for this interview excerpt. I remember the room Neil, Claudia Fish, and I were in for this interview. But I can’t connect it to a place (New York City?) or to the published interview. I’ll keep looking. It all has to be somewhere.

Neil Peart was telling me about his goal to write when he was no longer with Rush. As long as he was committed to Rush, and as long as both he as a drummer, and Rush as a band, were improving — he’d stick with it. When he arrived at the “inevitable” time when he and Rush peaked — Neil would turn the majority of his time to writing. He was sure he couldn’t both stay as committed as he was to Rush and write.

I start this excerpt asking Neil, “Do you have things you would like to write about?”

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