Les DeMerle – Drum Tuning for All Occasions

SKF NOTE: Les DeMerle‘s feature interview appeared in the October 1984 “Modern Drummer.” DeMerle was, and still is, an interesting musician maintaining a unique balance between the business and artistic sides of drumming.

Digital media has no doubt changed the equation. How much, I don’t know. But pre-digital, drummers who excelled at the business of music, like DeMerle, were rare.

As a drummer, DeMerle played all styles very well. Swing, Bebop, and Fusion. Small group, big band, backing a singer–DeMerle is your guy.

At one point, I said to DeMerle, “It’s intriguing that you can remain so active in concerts, in teaching, in clinics, in seminars, in recordings, and in other areas of the music business–-like owning and operating your own night club-–and still grow on your instrument. How do you find the time to do all that?”

DeMerle said, “You have to make time for it. I openly admit that I’m totally dedicated to drumming and to music. Never in my life have I had to do anything other than play drums to make a living,” adding, “In other words, I keep enough things going so that if one falls through, the other one happens.”

I taped this interview in one of the worst environments for taping interviews: a packed noisy restaurant somewhere on Long Island, NY.

But I was able to adjust the sound so our voices are easily understood.

This is DeMerle explaining how he tunes his drums for different settings. Live settings, studio setting, mikes vs no mikes.

Visit DeMerle’s website today and you will see he still excels at performing and business. https://www.lesdemerle.com/

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Dave Weckl—Hand Technique (1983)

SKFNOTE – August 5, 1983 I interviewed 23-year old Dave Weckl in his Bridgeport, CT apartment.

In 1983, no one else at Modern Drummer thought Weckl warranted a feature interview. The feature interview I argued for became a much shorter “Up and Coming” profile.

However, I saved the interview transcription I typed of the full interview. It is available on my blog here: https://tinyurl.com/4w23vxm3

In this clip from that 1983 interview, Weckl is answering my question about his hand technique. The finger control method he learned from Jim Peterczak, and his use of both traditional and matched grip.

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Dave Weckl–The Spiritual Side of Life (1983)

SKF NOTE: This clip is from my 1983 interview with Dave Weckl for Modern Drummer. MD published a much shorter version of this interview in April 1984 as an “Up and Coming” profile of Weckl, which still holds up well. 

Weckl was age 23 when we met for this interview. He was living in Bridgeport, CT getting ready to go on tour with Simon and Garfunkel–arguably the first major gig that put Weckl on the map.

As of this writing, Weckl is age 66.

In this clip, following up on something Weckl said about leading a balanced life, I asked if Weckl thought about the spiritual side of life; if the spirituality at all informed his drumming.

This is Weckl’s answer 43 years ago. I don’t know how he would answer my question today.

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Dave Weckl—Approaching Time (1983)

SKF NOTE: I think his name is Chris. He was a young guy who called me from time-to-time, at Modern Drummer, full of enthusiasm about a local upstate New York drummer he said we should interview.

Chris was the only person in the world I heard talk about this local drummer.

This drummer’s only claim to fame was, Chris liked him and, according to Chris, this local drummer studied with Gary Chester. Oh, and the drummer consistently wowed patrons at a local nightclub.

Long story short: It was not long before this local drummer had landed a gig touring with Simon and Garfunkel. His name was Dave Weckl.

August 5, 1983, I did, indeed, interview Dave at his Bridgeport, CT apartment.

In this clip from my 1983 interview, Weckl is telling me about his interest in how other musicians approach time.

In 1983, no one else at MD thought Weckl warranted a feature interview. My Weckl feature interview was published in a much shortened “Up and Coming” profile.

However, my complete 1983 Dave Weckl transcript is available here: https://tinyurl.com/4w23vxm3

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Freddie Gruber – Teaching Saved My Life

SKF NOTE: This excerpt is from audiocassette Side B of my Modern Drummer Freddie Gruber interview. Gruber was a respected drum teacher whose students include Neil Peart, Steve Smith, Dave Weckl, and Vinnie Colaiuta.

Gruber, a product of post-World War 2 NYC, is known by his peers of that era as a visionary jazz drummer. Perhaps the best example is drummer Jim Chapin‘s description of Gruber’s drumming circa 1949:

Gruber is admittedly a controversial figure. His critics point to Gruber’s lack of a discography. If Freddie Gruber’s so great, why isn’t he on any records, say his critics.

In fact, there is plenty of evidence of Gruber on record, and of Gruber’s ability to play drums, and to teach drumming. Here’s a great example from former Gruber student, Neal Sausen:

So, here’s Gruber on his journey from player, to non-player, to teacher. Teaching, he told me, saved his life.

As I’ve mentioned before, we were at Buddy Rich’s NYC apartment kitchen table. Buddy was not home, but I was in awe at being so close to Buddy’s presence.

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