Audio: Freddie Gruber on The Marvelous Magic of Dave Tough

SKF NOTE: Excerpt from my interview with Freddie Gruber in Buddy Rich’s NYC apartment circa 1983-84. I posted my memory of this interview on an earlier post.

I am so grateful to have met and interviewed gifted people like Freddie Gruber, in part, because of the personal connection Freddie had with great musicians in the generations before him. During some drummer interviews, there are rare moments when I am acutely aware of the musical, historical value of what I am hearing.

That’s how I feel about what Freddie Gruber has to say here about Dave Tough. Moreso today than 30-plus years ago during this interview. Listening this morning, I hear Freddie – simply by the tone of his voice – urging me to stop talking, and listen to what Freddie is saying about Dave Tough.

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Audio: James Black on His Drum Equipment, His Sound, and His Upcoming Album (1982)

SKF NOTE: My James Black interview appeared in the December 1982 Modern Drummer. The first person to get me excited about James Black’s drumming was Jaimoe. We were listening to records and Jaimoe asked me if I’d ever heard James Black. I said, “No.” He pulled out an old Riverside record of the Adderley Brothers, placed it on the turntable, put the needle on the record and admonished, “Listen to this!”

This is my follow-up intervew with James Black, asking questions I thought of after our first interview. I found this 13-plus minute conversation with James Black among other interviews on the cassette pictured in the YouTube video. The full interview and back story are posted here.

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Max Roach Ludwig Ad 1982

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SKF NOTE: A nice photo of Max Roach with his blonde Ludwig drums. This ad was on the inside front cover of the June 1982 Modern Drummer with Max on the cover.

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Audio: Tommy Aldridge on Playing Double-Bass Drums (1982)

SKF NOTE: This cassette, from my stint as Managing Editor at Modern Drummer, seems to have been a tape I used, circa 1982, for interview follow-ups with drummers. Tommy Aldridge, James Black, Bob DiSalle, Max Roach, Carolyn Brandy, and, I think, photographer Kirk West are all on this 90-minute tape. Plus there’s a snippet of someone (unidentified) playing drums, and a 8-bars of a song idea I recorded on nylon string guitar.

Tommy Aldridge and I were speaking through a land line in my office. I was taping our conversation using my Radio Shack suction cup mic and an inexpensive cassette recorder. I had a few letters from MD readers with questions for Tommy. Tommy’s answers here were, I’m sure, transcribed, edited, and published in MD as part of an Ask A Pro column.

The recording quality is okay. Tommy was recorded at very low volume, which I’ve boosted on this excerpt. The first reader asks if Tommy has tips for exercise on playing double-bass drums. “Everybody asks me that question,” Tommy says, and that part of his answer is a bit garbled here.

Also, at around 1:15 on this audiofile, Tommy, cites the song, Wipeout as a good double-bass drumming exercise. The song title is very soft on this tape.

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Give the Student Something Positive to Remember About Drumming

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SKF NOTE: Thinking the last few days about my boring first drum teacher. A nearby music store employee, I don’t remember his name, but he and I were sitting in a closet size room with a drum pad. “You need to buy this drum rudiment book. Here’s how to hold the drumsticks. Let’s start with the single stroke roll.” TapTapTapTap.

How disappointing. I was thinking, “I want to play drums, not drum pad. I was anticipating sitting at a drumset, not a square of hard rubber.” The teacher was bored and uninspiring. Okay, I was a 14-year old at his first drum lesson. Maybe I was that teacher’s tenth first drum lesson student that day. I understand. Everybody has bad days.

The real lesson for me that first day — which I realized only years later when I was teaching drums, or writing about drummers and drumming — is this: Bad days notwithstanding, when drummers are in any kind of teacher/student relationship, we should give the student something positive to remember about drumming.

I started to say, drummers in teacher/student relationships are obligated to give the student something positive to remember about drumming. That’s true for me. I don’t know if it’s true for all drummers.

Some of my greatest drum teachers were neither drummers, teachers, nor even musicians. But I found inspiration in at least one part of how they went about their life’s work. Something as simple as watching furniture designer, Jim Brown, penciling cut lines on a piece of oak destined to be a beautiful dining room table.

Jim’s career is designing and building wood furniture. He’s done this thousands of times, but with each pencil line Jim repeats one of his favorite reminders: “Measure twice. Cut once.”

Jim learned that, he tells me, from “an old carpenter.”

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