SKF NOTE: Excerpted from my late 1983 or early 1984 interview with Freddie Gruber. I don’t know how much, if any, of this excerpt is in Modern Drummer’s Focus on Teachers interview, but this excerpt differs in one respect. These are Freddie’s words verbatim. The MD interview was somewhat edited. // This exchange took place at Buddy Rich’s kitchen table in Buddy’s New York City apartment.